I've seen these letters on A&M and related labels, but I haven't seen anything about them.
Does anyone know what they stand for? I assume it's the pressing plant numbers like on Polydor related label or the pressing plant initials on Atlantic labels.
Most of them seem to have the same letter on both sides, but I have seen one that had an X on one side and a Y on the other.
IDK, looking at the variation you subbed I originally thought you were talking about the label matrix. But in the already existing version there is a "B" on the A-side. No idea what it means.
With regard to the notes, the IR-9934 cat# is on the labels, not the vinyl ;)
andygrayrecords
IDK, looking at the variation you subbed I originally thought you were talking about the label matrix. But in the already existing version there is a "B" on the A-side. No idea what it means.
With regard to the notes, the IR-9934 cat# is on the labels, not the vinyl ;)
Fixed - I bet it's something like the manufacturer Id numbers on the polydor labels. But I haven't seen a mention of it anywhere
hompahey
The list below is taken from Columbia Records Pressing Plant, Carrollton, GA page:
W = Columbia Records Pressing Plant, Carrollton, GA
X = Columbia Records Pressing Plant, Pitman
Y = Columbia Records Pressing Plant, Terre Haute
C = Monarch Record Mfg. Co.
R = RCA Records Pressing Plant, Indianapolis
B = Electrosound Group Midwest, Inc. is missing there. Example: Police, The - Walking On The Moon
Thanks! I wasn't sure where to find that. I'll update my sub.
aasaxell
hompaheyThe list below
That is good to know!
Does anyone know if this is specific to A&M? If so, it should probably be added to the profile...
I think it is, them and the labels they distribute. I haven't seen it anywhere else at least.
I went ahead and added this to the A&M Records label profile, and I updated the "W" plant's profile as well. I didn't check the other pressing plants' profiles.
Interesting topic that has come up here. I am collecting Joe Jackson records and had already made a list of various label/pressing plant differences of his A&M US singles that I'm aware of. I'll post details below, but the main question for me is, if these differences qualify indeed for new submissions? I'd be glad to see it, but I'm unsure in regards of 1.4.4 of the general guidelines.
In detail, I've noticed the label letters start in Joe Jackson's US discography with the release Home Town in July 1986.
I haven't noticed these label differences for the promo versions yet, except for Home Town: R, W (Promo: no letter)
Hope you'll find this interesting too and whoever can shed some light on these mentioned mysteries or could add some more pressings or details, please help. Thanks.
I have a copy of A & M SP-4912, Joan Armatrading's "The Key" (1983) with an "A" on the label. Not sure of pressing. Has a 2 3/4" press ring. "A" is to the left of A & M logo-slightly smaller than the other letters I have seen. I'll add sub tonight with photo.
Runout/deep etch:
A) A & M SP 04912-A GD-2
B) A & M SP 04912-B GD-2
I would appreciate any assistance here.
I have a Police Outlandos d'Amour LP, red lettering front of jacket. There is an A beside the A&M on the media label. So it looks like this will be a Goldisc Recording Products, Inc.? I don't see the "A" version currently catalogued. Is there a simple way to copy everything from a similar entry, like the "B" variant for example, and just change the "B" to an "A" and submit it? I am new to all of this. Thanks for all of the help to this point above.
vinylrecordmarket
I have a Police Outlandos d'Amour LP, red lettering front of jacket. There is an A beside the A&M on the media label. So it looks like this will be a Goldisc Recording Products, Inc.? I don't see the "A" version currently catalogued. Is there a simple way to copy everything from a similar entry, like the "B" variant for example, and just change the "B" to an "A" and submit it? I am new to all of this. Thanks for all of the help to this point above.
SP 4753 A/ SP 4753 B
AM SP 5244/AM SP 5244 -(the 5244 is XXXX out both sides)
M1 / M1
(A circle with two dots in the middle) / (a circle with two dots in the middle)
MR (delta sign) 25424 / MR (delta sign) 25424X
If your line of sight is oriented from the bottom of the vinyl to the middle hole, the delta symbol mentioned above is vertically oriented, while the two dots in the circle are horizontally oriented. If that makes sense.
Terre Haute pressings had the letter code on their labels as either "Y" or "y." I would take such pressings on a case-by-case basis. 'X' and 'Z' are letters that pretty much look the same either capital or lower-case. If it's shown as 'y' on the label, present it as 'y'. If it's 'Y', list it as 'Y'. Simple as that. A shame that guidelines demand such code always entered in caps regardless of whether it's that way on the label or not.
What about "Z"? I have a copy of Yellow Magic Orchestra A&M #SP-4853 with a pressing plant code Z on the label. Never seen "Z" before. Anyone able to identify the plant?
Z on A&M label = Columbia Records Pressing Plant, Santa Maria
THUS:
B = Electrosound Group Midwest, Inc. is missing there. Example: Police, The - Walking On The Moon
C = Monarch Record Mfg. Co.
R = RCA Records Pressing Plant, Indianapolis
W = Columbia Records Pressing Plant, Carrollton, GA
X = Columbia Records Pressing Plant, Pitman
Y = Columbia Records Pressing Plant, Terre Haute
Z = Columbia Records Pressing Plant, Santa Maria
There was another code, used in the early 1980's, 'A'. That signified Goldisc Recording Products, Inc., as I noted several posts above; such copies would have 'GD' in the runouts.
